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The never ending build of 1062.
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GSX_TC
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Goodluck out there man, bringing this car to the shootout next year would make Galant VR4's look badass.
Galantvr41062
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Here is the run down from the muscle car shootout at BIR from this weekend. The track had tons of grip, to much for my setup. I broke 5 axles in 3 passes, the number of cars and classes plus no open time trials limited me to 3 runs Saturday and 1 elimination run Sunday morning.
First pass we upped tire pressure to 16psi, and left the line with 8psi. We broke both rear axles at the line.
Swapped out both axles and the 2nd run left the line at 7k with a slip launch no two step. 1.6 60' and ran a 9.8@150.
We made some changes and for the last run of the day we left the line at 7k again no 2 step and broke the driver rear axle at the 30' mark and the car took off for the wall, I counter steered and let off.
Swapped axles and made a few more changes, tire pressure was set to 22psi and our first round of eliminations Sunday left the line at 7k again no 2 step and broke both rear axles at the line, the other guy did not red light, or break out, so that was it for the weekend.
It was a fun weekend and we will try and come up with a plan for cedar falls later this year.
First pass we upped tire pressure to 16psi, and left the line with 8psi. We broke both rear axles at the line.
Swapped out both axles and the 2nd run left the line at 7k with a slip launch no two step. 1.6 60' and ran a 9.8@150.
We made some changes and for the last run of the day we left the line at 7k again no 2 step and broke the driver rear axle at the 30' mark and the car took off for the wall, I counter steered and let off.
Swapped axles and made a few more changes, tire pressure was set to 22psi and our first round of eliminations Sunday left the line at 7k again no 2 step and broke both rear axles at the line, the other guy did not red light, or break out, so that was it for the weekend.
It was a fun weekend and we will try and come up with a plan for cedar falls later this year.
NateCrisman
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Holy crap...that's a lot of axle swapping! Sucks to hear about, hope you can figure out a way to keep the driveline together. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/idea.gif
Galantvr41062
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Last Friday night the car made its way all over the streets of down town like it was the early 2000's. We hit up the sears lot by the capital, holiday by spring steet, parked at the Rainbow lot, drove around a hole lot and had a great night.
Rolled with a twin turbo viper that could have been a fun race, but conditions were not in our favor to see, and saw a Twin turbo Pontiac GTO just shy of 1000whp that would have been another good race, but he hung around kasoto and Spring street.... next time I suppose.
I think between driving to and from work and all around I put 120 miles on the car in 1 day, dang.
This Saturday I will be up at a car show just south of Milaca MN, anyone who wants to join is welcome.
link here: link
~John
Rolled with a twin turbo viper that could have been a fun race, but conditions were not in our favor to see, and saw a Twin turbo Pontiac GTO just shy of 1000whp that would have been another good race, but he hung around kasoto and Spring street.... next time I suppose.
I think between driving to and from work and all around I put 120 miles on the car in 1 day, dang.
This Saturday I will be up at a car show just south of Milaca MN, anyone who wants to join is welcome.
link here: link
~John
Galantvr41062
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I will work on some pics but the race car is done for the year. I have 2 spare blocks and heads I am bringing to MAP along with my custom CP pistons and Custom Carrillo rods and many other parts and I want a motor that will handle 850AWHP for a season by spring time.
Also on 10-28-2012 at 7;36AM we had our baby girl: Liana Zoey LaCroix. So the race car is on hold for the winter and I want to get out ASAP for NHRA license passes and the Galant VR4 record in ET.
I think with a track that spins a little my setup will do what I want then let it be, enjoy the car again before it sits waiting to decimate our Liana's boy friends car 16 years from now. I better look up how to make some moon shine.
~John
Also on 10-28-2012 at 7;36AM we had our baby girl: Liana Zoey LaCroix. So the race car is on hold for the winter and I want to get out ASAP for NHRA license passes and the Galant VR4 record in ET.
I think with a track that spins a little my setup will do what I want then let it be, enjoy the car again before it sits waiting to decimate our Liana's boy friends car 16 years from now. I better look up how to make some moon shine.
~John
strokin4dr
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Congrats on the new addition to the fam!
I love checking this thread so post pics when you can.
I love checking this thread so post pics when you can.
Gizmovr4
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John, congratulations on the baby - I have a six month old so I can relate - welcome to no sleep!!
Next year should be fun - there are at least 4 fast vr4s that will shoot for the top spot! I cant believe 431 was able to hold on to the top spot for a year. I look forward to next year!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif
Next year should be fun - there are at least 4 fast vr4s that will shoot for the top spot! I cant believe 431 was able to hold on to the top spot for a year. I look forward to next year!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif
Galantvr41062
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I ordered up the parts to refresh the tranny, I replaced the 3/4 synchro set a little to late last year. Now I am replacing the evo 3 4th gear, I will inspec the final drive/intermediate shaft for wear. I also have a new double synchro 2nd coming, right now if the car spins it will lock me out. Also a new 3/4 shift fork and new Mitsu OEM tranny fluid. I was running Redline Shock Proof light, but word on the street is this will wear out synchros in a hurry.
I am also planning a parachute to be installed and hit up Rock Falls Raceway in Wisconsin, then the MAP Proving grounds at BIR, the local house of hook.
~John
I am also planning a parachute to be installed and hit up Rock Falls Raceway in Wisconsin, then the MAP Proving grounds at BIR, the local house of hook.
~John
NateCrisman
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Excited to hear! Can't wait for he track update., good luck.
GSX_TC
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Congrats on your new addition to the family John! =)
Galantvr41062
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Yes I had the block o ringed before last year, and with the MLS gasket worked great until I turned the boost up a little to high /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
I had been running around 39-40psi on E98 and towards the end of last year I wanted to see a little more. So the night we drove all over to all the good hang outs and what have you I upped it to 43psi, car felt good so I figured up it to 45ish, but the car made 50psi of boost and lifted the head.
So the MLS gasket in the #3 cylinder on the intake side turned into a blow torch and made short work of the cylinder head and gasket, burt the o ring and singed the deck surface....
This was the 2nd full pull of 2012, I think at 29psi we ended up making 650, then traction issues and other problems ended the dyno sessions with no solid numbers, but based on logs the car was making more power per PSI then 2011 when it made 947AWHP at DB at 44psi.
Not a DD but a streatable race car, I did take it to CUB late one night when Alison needed something from the store.
Her is the little one that has been my focus for the last 4 some months, it is a great thing to be a father, and I hope to give little Liana everything I can. And someday as much I hate to say it I should learn how to distill moon shine so Liana can beat her boyfriends car in a race.
Liana in her baptism out fit knitted by my mom.
The blow out went into the intake runner, so this is the first stage of welding the MAP stage 5 head back up, filling in the floor.
I then stood the head up on end and started building up the deck surface, I will check with a sonic tester to make sure its thick enough before the head goes back on, then I filled in the out side hole, there should still be a small opening for coolant flow on that side. And after decking and putting in new intake valve seats this head should be good to go.
After some talking with my friend Andy I noticed in my logs my voltage would drop to 13.x for a short time then go back up to 14+. We talked and he thought I might be over spinning the alternator and causing voltage issues. So we cut down a factory alternator pulley and welded a factory water pump pulley to it, and this will reduce the alternator rpm by a lot. From what I could find it might spin a little slow at idle but be a lot closer to the peek alternator rpm then over driven by a ton.
And if it does not work, I have a few other factory pulleys and I can just swap it out.
Mains and Rod bearing could be used again, but new ones will be installed, cylinder walls looked great also.
This is the comparison of the 2010 to 2011 pistons from CP. They inspected the 2010 pistons and changed the out shape and machine processes, and the piston skirt wear was reduced by A LOT, and they added more gas ports for the top ring, 6 instead of 4.
Nothing but the best, super easy instal, rock solid performance and easy removal during rebuilds.
With the custom Carrillo rod I can not be happier, the straight I beam, 3/8" CARR rod bolts, wider small end and crazy NASCAR spec balance with the pistons.... I sent them back also and I have full CMM specs and they are EXACTLY the same as when they were produced, crazy.
Here is a pic of my car launching at the line at the Muscle Car Shoot out at BIR from 2012, the track had way to much bite for my setup, I made 1 full pass and broke 5 rear axels in that event.
So I ordered some tranny refresh parts from JACKS. I hope this gives me close to a season of use.
I am replacing the evo 3 4th gear, I dont make the torque as Mark does but this gear has 2 years on it.
I am also replacing the 2nd gear synchro, if the car spins it has and will lock me out of 2nd, not a bad thing but I figure just to be safe. and also I will switch back to only 1/2 quart Redline shock proof light and the rest mitsu tranny fluid, JACKS is pretty sure the red line shock proof will cause synchros to fail. IDK I only stripped a used final drive late 2010.
I do have the car spun around so the next week or 2 I can start on chute mount and what not.
~John
I had been running around 39-40psi on E98 and towards the end of last year I wanted to see a little more. So the night we drove all over to all the good hang outs and what have you I upped it to 43psi, car felt good so I figured up it to 45ish, but the car made 50psi of boost and lifted the head.
So the MLS gasket in the #3 cylinder on the intake side turned into a blow torch and made short work of the cylinder head and gasket, burt the o ring and singed the deck surface....
This was the 2nd full pull of 2012, I think at 29psi we ended up making 650, then traction issues and other problems ended the dyno sessions with no solid numbers, but based on logs the car was making more power per PSI then 2011 when it made 947AWHP at DB at 44psi.
Not a DD but a streatable race car, I did take it to CUB late one night when Alison needed something from the store.
Her is the little one that has been my focus for the last 4 some months, it is a great thing to be a father, and I hope to give little Liana everything I can. And someday as much I hate to say it I should learn how to distill moon shine so Liana can beat her boyfriends car in a race.
Liana in her baptism out fit knitted by my mom.
The blow out went into the intake runner, so this is the first stage of welding the MAP stage 5 head back up, filling in the floor.
I then stood the head up on end and started building up the deck surface, I will check with a sonic tester to make sure its thick enough before the head goes back on, then I filled in the out side hole, there should still be a small opening for coolant flow on that side. And after decking and putting in new intake valve seats this head should be good to go.
After some talking with my friend Andy I noticed in my logs my voltage would drop to 13.x for a short time then go back up to 14+. We talked and he thought I might be over spinning the alternator and causing voltage issues. So we cut down a factory alternator pulley and welded a factory water pump pulley to it, and this will reduce the alternator rpm by a lot. From what I could find it might spin a little slow at idle but be a lot closer to the peek alternator rpm then over driven by a ton.
And if it does not work, I have a few other factory pulleys and I can just swap it out.
Mains and Rod bearing could be used again, but new ones will be installed, cylinder walls looked great also.
This is the comparison of the 2010 to 2011 pistons from CP. They inspected the 2010 pistons and changed the out shape and machine processes, and the piston skirt wear was reduced by A LOT, and they added more gas ports for the top ring, 6 instead of 4.
Nothing but the best, super easy instal, rock solid performance and easy removal during rebuilds.
With the custom Carrillo rod I can not be happier, the straight I beam, 3/8" CARR rod bolts, wider small end and crazy NASCAR spec balance with the pistons.... I sent them back also and I have full CMM specs and they are EXACTLY the same as when they were produced, crazy.
Here is a pic of my car launching at the line at the Muscle Car Shoot out at BIR from 2012, the track had way to much bite for my setup, I made 1 full pass and broke 5 rear axels in that event.
So I ordered some tranny refresh parts from JACKS. I hope this gives me close to a season of use.
I am replacing the evo 3 4th gear, I dont make the torque as Mark does but this gear has 2 years on it.
I am also replacing the 2nd gear synchro, if the car spins it has and will lock me out of 2nd, not a bad thing but I figure just to be safe. and also I will switch back to only 1/2 quart Redline shock proof light and the rest mitsu tranny fluid, JACKS is pretty sure the red line shock proof will cause synchros to fail. IDK I only stripped a used final drive late 2010.
I do have the car spun around so the next week or 2 I can start on chute mount and what not.
~John
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NateCrisman
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So when is your next track day? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Galantvr41062
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I will be at the MAP Proving grounds June 21-23, by then I should be able to get a few good full passes in. Rock falls has some test and tune days on April 20, a sport compact day the 21st, and another T and T on the 27th and May 18 and June 15.
~John
~John
Galantvr41062
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I tore the rest of the tranny apart and ordered anothezr: 3/4 synchro a new 1/2 hub and slider, new cut engagement 2nd gear, new 1/2 and 3/4 synchro dog keys and lucky for me I found a almost new 3/4 hub and slider in my parts pile.
So for sure my trans will be up to snuff for proving grounds 1 and 2.
~John
So for sure my trans will be up to snuff for proving grounds 1 and 2.
~John
Galantvr41062
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All my new tranny parts showed up, and I picked up a used tranny with evo 3 stuff in side, it hurt the intermediate shaft and 4th gear so I have some extra parts and will buy a new intermediate shaft to fix this tranny for a back up this year.
I also dropped off my new block, MAP stage 5 head, and all the parts needed to make a good long block minus cams at MAP so they can build me a motor to handle 875AWHP for the season.
I plan for my car to be at the track for the MAP proving grounds late June, see you then.
I am going to re make my heat exchanger tank and use my old radiator as my heat exchanger up front.
Here are the new tranny parts, I am going to run 2 quarts Mitsu MTF 75w 85 and the rest shock proof light gear oil.
~John
I also dropped off my new block, MAP stage 5 head, and all the parts needed to make a good long block minus cams at MAP so they can build me a motor to handle 875AWHP for the season.
I plan for my car to be at the track for the MAP proving grounds late June, see you then.
I am going to re make my heat exchanger tank and use my old radiator as my heat exchanger up front.
Here are the new tranny parts, I am going to run 2 quarts Mitsu MTF 75w 85 and the rest shock proof light gear oil.
~John
Galantvr41062
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Getting a slow start on the season, o well. I have 1 tranny complete, and the other one just needs to be re-assembled. The motor is hard blocked, and honed .020" over for the pistons, and the mains are line honed. Now I just need to port the hard block to get water flowing, bring the block down to MAP to get the orings cut into the deck surface. The head is welded up, we cut the intake valve seat out(new one coming) and its been decked, nice and flat again. I have 3 new exhaust valves coming, 3 were bent from last year /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif and we will do a valve job and then put the motor together. I have new rings, bearings, wrist pins, and all new gaskets coming. The clutch is still holding up and I have 6 rear axels for the track.
The plan is get the block done asap and I figure I need a weekend to get the car together and driving, then break the motor in, and head to a AWD dyno to check the tune and I will not run any more then 45psi this year, I liked driving around at 41-42psi it moves good at that power level.
One step at a time, and if I do not make the MAP proving grounds the 21st of this month I will plan to make the one later this year.
~John
The plan is get the block done asap and I figure I need a weekend to get the car together and driving, then break the motor in, and head to a AWD dyno to check the tune and I will not run any more then 45psi this year, I liked driving around at 41-42psi it moves good at that power level.
One step at a time, and if I do not make the MAP proving grounds the 21st of this month I will plan to make the one later this year.
~John
GSX_TC
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You gonna take this to the Shootout In August?
Galantvr41062
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IDK if the shoot out in Ohio is in the cards this year. But I hope with any luck I will have the block back by Thursday this week, and the few small parts I am waiting on, and then its a few days of hoopla to get it up and running for the MAP Proving grounds at BIR on the weekend of June 21.
~John
~John
