New Owner of 820/1000

[GSTwithPSI]

Finished up the new brakes on 820. They feel awesome.

After a a few hard stops on the new brakes, there was brake dust everywhere, so I figured I'd just pull both the turds out of the garage and give them a bath.

All clean and tucked away in the garage.

 

[transparentdsm]

wow, the cars look great. are all 3 finished and driving now. i see the black one all the way in the back.

 

[GSTwithPSI]

Thanks, Shane.

The black one does run and drive, but its still got an engine knock. I'll be starting on that build here soon now that 820 is pretty much finished.

 

[GSTwithPSI]

It's been awesome driving 820 since the fall weather hit. It's been problem free for the most part, which is awesome. Looking forward to the snow this year /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif

 

[ApexHunter]

Looks the business. Love that ride height/wheel setup. I'm hoping to take the Evo up North for a little snowboarding and snowdriving this season.

 

[GSTwithPSI]

As 1837 gets upgrades, 820 gets some hand-me-downs /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

820 recently got an Evo 8 MAF and new K&N filter. Then, I swapped in some FIC 1150s just in case I decide I want to run E85 some day.

I also got hooked up with a really cool spark plug cover. Rob from Rob's DSM Carbon is making some pretty cool hand made custom carbon fiber pieces. I was lucky enough to get one of the first pieces he made, and it's a super clean centerpiece for any engine bay.

 

[G]

That's pretty sweet. How much was it? Most of them I've seen in the past warp and or discolor from the engine heat. Hopefully this one is better.

 

[GSTwithPSI]

The guy making them is charging $75 shipped I believe. It's a hand made custom part, so I can't vouch for how well it will hold up. I'll find that out.

 

[ApexHunter]

Looking good.
Helluva deal at $75 shipped. Yes, will be cool to see how they hold up. These can be tricky due to the heat...go too thick with the clear and they have a tendency to crack.

edit: How are you liking the V12 Evo2s? I never got a chance to use mine...I think I put maybe 4 miles on em before I sold the car.

 

[GSTwithPSI]

I like them so far. I've never really pushed the car on them, but for DDing they seem to be great.

 

[MellowVR4]

Also interested how that CF spark plug cover holds up after awhile.

Would be appreciated if you can keep us updated on this please /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[GSTwithPSI]

Haven't been doing too much to 820. Just been driving and enjoying it for a change! I try and tidy some things up here and there, but overall the car has been problem free. *knock on wood*

In the process of tidying some more things up, I got a new revised plug cover for 820, and it looks awesome. Rob from from Dark Art Carbon is still making these. More of his work can be seen on his FB page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1076393349143354/?fref=mentions

...BTW, the old plug cover was still holding up well when I removed it, but Rob hooked me up with a new one for basically free.

 

[GSTwithPSI]

As always, wrenching continues.

About this time last year, I had the motor out of 820 to give it a makeover. At that time I had some issues with the car, the big ticket items being the clutch not disengaging, and low compression on cylinder #1. When I got the head off, the intake valves were so gunked up on cyl #1 the valves weren't sealing. So, I sourced a used head and slapped the motor back together. When I got the motor back in, it ran great initially. However, over time, compression on cyl #2 and #3 dropped off to below 100 psi. A leakdown test seemed to indicate it was a problem with the head, but at that point I wasn't willing to chance it. I decided the motor was coming out again...

I've had the old 6 bolt stocker that was in 1837 on a stand for a while. I figured since it was a known good long block, the best option would be to swap it in, and in the future, build up the 6 bolt from 820 as time and money allow.

I made a few changes to the setup this time around. Previously, I had swapped to a 2G head and Evo III intake thinking the small intake ports would increase my low end torque/power a bit. However, I wasn't terribly impressed with any of the felt performance gains on the street. So, I decided to go back to a 1G head, but paired up with a cyclone dual runner intake with the variable butterflies. I also replaced the old bastard TD05H 20G with the 68HTA V2 I was running previously on 1837. I'm hoping this new combo will yield some of the low end gains I was shooting for with the last setup:

Once again, I got to work giving 820 the business!

New motor all polished up ready to drop in:

All tucked in /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Done /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Swapped the 92 grille back in for Anthony /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rofl.gif

Garage full of turds...

End result: 820 is running better than it ever has. Compression is 150 across the board, and the car pulls strong on the 68HTA. I need to tweak the tune a bit more, and play with the cyclone activation point to see what the car likes best, but overall it has been great. No squeaks, no leaks, no bullshit. An E85 tune may also be in store for the future, but we'll see.

At this point, both cars are running good *knock on wood*, so I'm not trying to f*** that up. I'm scheduled to move back to SoCal at the beginning of next month, so I need both cars up and running until they make it off of the car carrier in Cali. Fingers crossed...

 

[iceman69510]

Looking spiffy as usual.

Question regarding keeping AC with the Cyclone. Are you just not running the support bracket? Any other mods? I am debating putting on my Cyclone (or selling it), but can't really test fit the compressor on the engine stand with it still attached in the car.

 

[GSTwithPSI]

Thanks, Dave.

I'm not running a support bracket on the manifold. I didn't have the bracket, and honestly I don't think it's needed. If you did have the bracket, I don't think you'd have any issues with it clearing the A/C compressor, though.

I did a few other mods. I converted the stock vacuum actuator to a T25 wastegate actuator, and I'll use ECMlink and the FPS to control the butterflies. I also modified a 1G coil pack bracket to locate the coil on the rear of the manifold (as pictured). The bracket in its current location requires an additional long plug wire (so basically you'll need to buy 2 sets of wires if they are DSM specific).

Put it on, or don't. But, I wouldn't sell it. They are definitely getting harder to find, especially in decent condition.

 

[FlyingEagle]

iceman, see my thread here for pics on fitting the brackets and such in place, including the original threads that preceded mine, with regards to using AC and a 4g63t cyclone setup.

Cyclone Manifold Coils Transistors Installation How To - Bias to '89 Mirage/Colt

I used one set of stock 4g6x wires, and relocated the transistor pack down low as shown in my pics.

I am using a stock 4g61t AC compressor but it must be similar minus outlet/inlet port directions due to a platform difference, but you get the idea. When the Cyclone goes in, then you can test fit your bracket and make modifications to suit your original Gvr4 compressor and hose layout. JDM cars used different compressor and hose layouts IIRC. Regardless, you see in my pics I did grind my super minty fresh JDM cyclone support bracket that came with my cyclone equipment. I do not regret the grinding, but it would not have been necessary with a matched JDM compressor on a GVR4 or maybe the USDM GVR4 compressor is similarly shaped too. My system was intact and unused for nearly 10 years before I put a belt on and cleaned up the pulley teeth, added the tensioner and got here running again, with an existing charge of what I assume is 1988 Japan built/sourced R12? I don't think cars were charged at port or after landing ... but who knows, as that is an aside.

Sorry to threadjack, I'll just leave this link for those looking to partly dissect their setup in anticipation of a Cyclone install.

Brett, I drooled over the red writing on your Cyclone manifold. So fresh and so clean clean!

If I ever had to ask someone for a dyno sheet for an EVO3 HKS 264/272 and how it should perform, would you be the man to ask? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worthy.gif

 

[GSTwithPSI]

Quoting FlyingEagle:
If I ever had to ask someone for a dyno sheet for an EVO3 HKS 264/272 and how it should perform, would you be the man to ask?



Evo 3 turbo or Evo 3 intake manifold? Either way, I don't have a dyno sheet for either combo...

I've been through your cyclone write up many times for many different reasons. Thanks for posting that.

 

[FlyingEagle]

Woops, I wasn't very specific now that I re-read that. 4g63t Gvr4 bottom end and head, Evo3 turbo, 2.5" exhaust, 264/272 HKS cams, Cyclone intake.

I know you collect useful info from larger turbo and similar setups, so it never hurts to ask.

I was struggling to find useful info all in one spot with regards to the Cyclone manifold and ALL of its related bits, so I was happy (once it was all compiled), to be allowed to post some input here for others to glance back at and glean any other tidbits they needed based upon my overall experience. Unfortunately, I am not a frequent user of dynos, so no sheets will be posted anytime soon from that side of things, but I have not had to make any changes to the setup, as I was anticipating.

 

[GSTwithPSI]

1837 is the only Galant I've had on the dyno, and that was only one session/3 pulls just to see where the car was at.

To be honest, logs are a lot more useful, and are a pretty accurate way to gauge power as well. They will tell you a lot more about a car than a dyno sheet will. You could compare 2 logs and get much of the same data.

Dyno pulls with logs to match give you the best of both worlds, IMO.

 

[tektic]

Do you have any logs showing the activation of the cyclone secondaries? I wold be interested to see that and compare it to my own logs.