OK, I have placed and paid for an order for a sample key fob, which involves creating the die and setting up for a sample run. Hopefully everything will be good, otherwise I'll be out a bunch of money for this sample. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/uhh.gif The sample should be shipped by 11/1. Of course I hope sooner, but that's what the invoice says. Will keep you guys updated. Sample was paid out of my pocket, your funds are still held in PP in case everything falls apart I can refund in the worst case.