I'm 100% fine with never again attending shootout after this year, the only thing that brings me back is the group of people I know from this board and cedar point. Other than that, it's really not worth a 4 hour drive. I spend most of the year thinking 'nah, i'll pass on it this year' only to decide to go late in the summer because I'd like to see some old friends and ride some coasters. Pavilions on any given Saturday will easily replace going to shoot out, west coast meets like JCCS have been a long time dream of mine. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif