There is a how to for brakes, but it's basically the exact same thing. It will def fix your problem.
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Clutch Master Cylinder, rebuild or replace
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cOmpressor
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Hertz
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That doesn't look right to me. The fitting for the line is on the wrong side and the bracket on the end of the rod is different than stock.
Terry Posten
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I can come over this weekend. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Terry Posten
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It is really hard to do yourself and if your wife is like mine, she wont lift a foot to help pump the pedal.
Call me if you need to.
Call me if you need to.
toybreaker
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Bench bleeding is done before you install the master cylinder.
You fill the reservoir, put a hose onto the outlet of the master, and aim the discharge into a pan (or back into the reservoir), and then stroke the piston, expelling the air from the master before installing the unit.
The advantage of doing it that way is that you're not pushing the air all the way thru the system (and against gravity) to get things bled out and happy.
On a side note, one interesting anomoly of the system is that the master outlet is not at the end o the master.
It's about half way along it's length.
This means if you have the nose of the car up higher than the back whilst you try and bleed it, you'll have a pocket of air trapped in the end of the master.
Having the car level, or even better, level, with the passenger side high will help to get the air out.
Good luck, it can really be a pisser getting it all bled out and adjusted correctly sometimes.
You fill the reservoir, put a hose onto the outlet of the master, and aim the discharge into a pan (or back into the reservoir), and then stroke the piston, expelling the air from the master before installing the unit.
The advantage of doing it that way is that you're not pushing the air all the way thru the system (and against gravity) to get things bled out and happy.
On a side note, one interesting anomoly of the system is that the master outlet is not at the end o the master.
It's about half way along it's length.
This means if you have the nose of the car up higher than the back whilst you try and bleed it, you'll have a pocket of air trapped in the end of the master.
Having the car level, or even better, level, with the passenger side high will help to get the air out.
Good luck, it can really be a pisser getting it all bled out and adjusted correctly sometimes.
jepherz
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Quoting cOmpressor:
Quoting Myles:
Found it
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Ebay Store
So the one at ebay store the right one or what?
The one I purchased through them was correct, but it doesn't look like they carry the correct model anymore? Maybe you could ask. The one I got was $38 shipped and OEM.
Quoting Myles:
Found it
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Ebay Store
So the one at ebay store the right one or what?
The one I purchased through them was correct, but it doesn't look like they carry the correct model anymore? Maybe you could ask. The one I got was $38 shipped and OEM.
Terry Posten
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Well, we finally found the culprit to the impossible bleeding issue.
Ryan replaced the master last month, we tried for a day to get the clutch right and we could never get it to work for than a few shifts.
I helped Ryan pull the tranny and found a sprung hub that had sprung, literally, and a badly worn fork/ball.
New clutch, PP, flywheel, fork, ball, bearing, clip, and slave and she is shifting like butter.
It was a long night, started at 7:30pm. Took a 1.5 hour dinner break at Midnight, but we got it done by around 3am. Also installed a new speedo cable, new brass bushings, new reverse switch (never did see if his reverse lights worked /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif).
Myles was a trooper with the tool fetching and general insight and Chris helped with the heavy lifting and crawling into the engine bay.
Ryan's back drifting in the Chi-town snow (too bad it all melted 2 days ago /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rofl.gif).
Ryan replaced the master last month, we tried for a day to get the clutch right and we could never get it to work for than a few shifts.
I helped Ryan pull the tranny and found a sprung hub that had sprung, literally, and a badly worn fork/ball.
New clutch, PP, flywheel, fork, ball, bearing, clip, and slave and she is shifting like butter.
It was a long night, started at 7:30pm. Took a 1.5 hour dinner break at Midnight, but we got it done by around 3am. Also installed a new speedo cable, new brass bushings, new reverse switch (never did see if his reverse lights worked /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif).
Myles was a trooper with the tool fetching and general insight and Chris helped with the heavy lifting and crawling into the engine bay.
Ryan's back drifting in the Chi-town snow (too bad it all melted 2 days ago /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rofl.gif).
CP
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The first ACT street disc that I pulled out of my car after buying it fell apart in my hands. The guides for the springs were toast and several springs fell right out when I removed it from the pressure plate/flywheel sandwich.
Rausch
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Glad to hear it got sorted!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Sorry I missed out. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
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Myles was a trooper with the tool fetching and general insight and Chris helped with the heavy lifting and crawling into the engine bay.
Captain Shoulder/pain pills is doing the lifting? WTF? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Man.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Quote:
Myles was a trooper with the tool fetching and general insight and Chris helped with the heavy lifting and crawling into the engine bay.
Captain Shoulder/pain pills is doing the lifting? WTF? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Man.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Terry Posten
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No, not Chris Beran. Another Chris that I am embarrassed to say, I don't know his last name. But he helped ALOT.
Rausch
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Ah, Ok.....Just checking! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
galant344
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Quoting Terry Posten:
No, not Chris Beran. Another Chris that I am embarrassed to say, I don't know his last name. But he helped ALOT.
lol, its ok terry. Enright is my last name.
No, not Chris Beran. Another Chris that I am embarrassed to say, I don't know his last name. But he helped ALOT.
lol, its ok terry. Enright is my last name.
Terry Posten
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Oh come on. That is a porn name. What's your real name?
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Sorry man, I still get my kids names mixed up and thier 10 and 8.
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Sorry man, I still get my kids names mixed up and thier 10 and 8.
Hertz
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Thank you guys!
G: need to add to your post: clutch+100k miles=fail.
It was tough to diagnose because the symptoms were inconsistent. The retaining clip on the fork was bent out, lotsa wear on everything, etc.
I drove her into work this morning. Shifts great, still getting used to the new engagement point, the weight of the pedal is not anywhere as heavy as I feared.
I did blow off the PCV hose, I'm assuming this means its froze... will replace the hose too.
G: need to add to your post: clutch+100k miles=fail.
It was tough to diagnose because the symptoms were inconsistent. The retaining clip on the fork was bent out, lotsa wear on everything, etc.
I drove her into work this morning. Shifts great, still getting used to the new engagement point, the weight of the pedal is not anywhere as heavy as I feared.
I did blow off the PCV hose, I'm assuming this means its froze... will replace the hose too.
galant344
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we should be able to adjust the clutch pedal if you would like?
Hertz
Staff member
Haha, thanks, I think I can cover that. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
